Comments on: Part 2: How To Correct a Full Drum Kit with Beat Detective in ProTools LE http://drumsloop.com/part-2-how-to-correct-a-full-drum-kit-with-beat-detective-in-protools-le/ All You Need To Know About Drums Thu, 09 Sep 2010 00:11:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: randomgong http://drumsloop.com/part-2-how-to-correct-a-full-drum-kit-with-beat-detective-in-protools-le/comment-page-1/#comment-21433 randomgong Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:26:14 +0000 http://drumsloop.com/part-2-how-to-correct-a-full-drum-kit-with-beat-detective-in-protools-le/#comment-21433 There are many ways to go about it. First, you could separate those measures like you suggested. And like this tutorial, you would have to correct all the drums to take care of any bleeding. Another way would be to change the grid. In this video, I conform the drums to 1/16 notes. You could make the grid 1/8 triplet or something (select 1/8 note, then check the "3" box right above "tap end B|B). You could also add some swing, like at 0:11 in the video. Let me know if this helps. There are many ways to go about it. First, you could separate those measures like you suggested. And like this tutorial, you would have to correct all the drums to take care of any bleeding.

Another way would be to change the grid. In this video, I conform the drums to 1/16 notes. You could make the grid 1/8 triplet or something (select 1/8 note, then check the “3″ box right above “tap end B|B). You could also add some swing, like at 0:11 in the video. Let me know if this helps.

]]> By: tbazani http://drumsloop.com/part-2-how-to-correct-a-full-drum-kit-with-beat-detective-in-protools-le/comment-page-1/#comment-21434 tbazani Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:26:14 +0000 http://drumsloop.com/part-2-how-to-correct-a-full-drum-kit-with-beat-detective-in-protools-le/#comment-21434 First thanks for your video explanation. It's great. Second... i have a question about the hi hat edit in this process. my session have many hi hats tricks... many triplets and swing hits. not all of those hats are tight do the grid. so, if i execute your tutorial, will them get tight and fit to the grid? do i need to separate edit them? note: i have OH and AMB track which contains hat bleeding. thanks in advance! First thanks for your video explanation. It’s great.
Second… i have a question about the hi hat edit in this process.
my session have many hi hats tricks… many triplets and swing hits. not all of those hats are tight do the grid. so, if i execute your tutorial, will them get tight and fit to the grid? do i need to separate edit them?
note: i have OH and AMB track which contains hat bleeding.

thanks in advance!

]]> By: Proutt http://drumsloop.com/part-2-how-to-correct-a-full-drum-kit-with-beat-detective-in-protools-le/comment-page-1/#comment-21435 Proutt Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:26:14 +0000 http://drumsloop.com/part-2-how-to-correct-a-full-drum-kit-with-beat-detective-in-protools-le/#comment-21435 Oh haha I didn't even think about the bleeding. Knew it was the fatigue :) Oh haha I didn’t even think about the bleeding. Knew it was the fatigue :)

]]> By: randomgong http://drumsloop.com/part-2-how-to-correct-a-full-drum-kit-with-beat-detective-in-protools-le/comment-page-1/#comment-21436 randomgong Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:26:14 +0000 http://drumsloop.com/part-2-how-to-correct-a-full-drum-kit-with-beat-detective-in-protools-le/#comment-21436 I used Beat Detective to correct all the drums, but sometimes Beat Detective doesn't make all the right corrections. In this case there was one small mess-up that I had to manually correct. Because the drums bleed through all the mics, you have to slice all the tracks. Make any more sense? I used Beat Detective to correct all the drums, but sometimes Beat Detective doesn’t make all the right corrections. In this case there was one small mess-up that I had to manually correct. Because the drums bleed through all the mics, you have to slice all the tracks. Make any more sense?

]]> By: Proutt http://drumsloop.com/part-2-how-to-correct-a-full-drum-kit-with-beat-detective-in-protools-le/comment-page-1/#comment-21437 Proutt Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:26:14 +0000 http://drumsloop.com/part-2-how-to-correct-a-full-drum-kit-with-beat-detective-in-protools-le/#comment-21437 Hi, im pretty sure it's only the fatigue, but I watched the videos and I still have no clue what you achieved there. It seems to me you sliced all the tracks for only correcting one bad kick. What am I missing? Hi, im pretty sure it’s only the fatigue, but I watched the videos and I still have no clue what you achieved there.

It seems to me you sliced all the tracks for only correcting one bad kick. What am I missing?

]]> By: randomgong http://drumsloop.com/part-2-how-to-correct-a-full-drum-kit-with-beat-detective-in-protools-le/comment-page-1/#comment-21438 randomgong Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:26:14 +0000 http://drumsloop.com/part-2-how-to-correct-a-full-drum-kit-with-beat-detective-in-protools-le/#comment-21438 I don't quite understand what you mean, but if you don't use a trigger pad, the overheads can especially sound weird. When I nudge my OH/Room audio around, I line them up with the snare. After that, I use the Trim plugin to invert the phase on certain tracks, and see what sounds good. I start with OHL/OHR. Then add in SN. Then Room - inverting different tracks along the way. There will always be phase issues when using multiple mics. Let me know if this helps or correct me if Im offbase. I don’t quite understand what you mean, but if you don’t use a trigger pad, the overheads can especially sound weird.

When I nudge my OH/Room audio around, I line them up with the snare. After that, I use the Trim plugin to invert the phase on certain tracks, and see what sounds good. I start with OHL/OHR. Then add in SN. Then Room – inverting different tracks along the way.

There will always be phase issues when using multiple mics.

Let me know if this helps or correct me if Im offbase.

]]> By: borquois http://drumsloop.com/part-2-how-to-correct-a-full-drum-kit-with-beat-detective-in-protools-le/comment-page-1/#comment-21439 borquois Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:26:14 +0000 http://drumsloop.com/part-2-how-to-correct-a-full-drum-kit-with-beat-detective-in-protools-le/#comment-21439 Are there any tricks to slicing up OH and Room mic audio? I've never found a good balance there. If I apply all the cuts Beat Detective creates to the OH/Room mic audio it makes the cymbals sound very unnatural. On the other hand, when I move the close mics and only make slight adjustments to the OH/Room, then they're out of phase. Thanks again for the tips! Are there any tricks to slicing up OH and Room mic audio? I’ve never found a good balance there. If I apply all the cuts Beat Detective creates to the OH/Room mic audio it makes the cymbals sound very unnatural. On the other hand, when I move the close mics and only make slight adjustments to the OH/Room, then they’re out of phase.

Thanks again for the tips!

]]> By: randomgong http://drumsloop.com/part-2-how-to-correct-a-full-drum-kit-with-beat-detective-in-protools-le/comment-page-1/#comment-21440 randomgong Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:26:14 +0000 http://drumsloop.com/part-2-how-to-correct-a-full-drum-kit-with-beat-detective-in-protools-le/#comment-21440 Thanks for watching! The purple stereo track at the top is actually the guitar, bass, vocal etc. I didn't want separate instrument tracks and their plugins hogging any cpu power. I had separate OHL, OHR, and Room tracks for this session. Generally I try to nudge the OH/Room tracks around before I use beat detective, but sometimes I forget and nudge them after lining them up, which is not ideal, but it still helps. Thanks for watching! The purple stereo track at the top is actually the guitar, bass, vocal etc. I didn’t want separate instrument tracks and their plugins hogging any cpu power. I had separate OHL, OHR, and Room tracks for this session.

Generally I try to nudge the OH/Room tracks around before I use beat detective, but sometimes I forget and nudge them after lining them up, which is not ideal, but it still helps.

]]> By: borquois http://drumsloop.com/part-2-how-to-correct-a-full-drum-kit-with-beat-detective-in-protools-le/comment-page-1/#comment-21441 borquois Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:26:14 +0000 http://drumsloop.com/part-2-how-to-correct-a-full-drum-kit-with-beat-detective-in-protools-le/#comment-21441 Thanks for the tutorial! I'm curious how you treated any overhead or room mics. It looks like there's a stereo track that you didn't alter (purple just above the kick/snare). Won't weird timing or phase issues be created when you move the individual mics and not the overhead/room tracks? Thanks for the tutorial!

I’m curious how you treated any overhead or room mics. It looks like there’s a stereo track that you didn’t alter (purple just above the kick/snare). Won’t weird timing or phase issues be created when you move the individual mics and not the overhead/room tracks?

]]> By: randomgong http://drumsloop.com/part-2-how-to-correct-a-full-drum-kit-with-beat-detective-in-protools-le/comment-page-1/#comment-21442 randomgong Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:26:14 +0000 http://drumsloop.com/part-2-how-to-correct-a-full-drum-kit-with-beat-detective-in-protools-le/#comment-21442 I do it that way so I get a preview of what beat detective is going to do to the keeper tracks. As long as the Beat Detective window is open, B.D. keeps the last used settings in memory, so I can tweak the settings on the guide track, then go back and apply all three steps (separate, conform, smooth) to the keeper tracks. Make sense? Thanks for watching and commenting! I do it that way so I get a preview of what beat detective is going to do to the keeper tracks. As long as the Beat Detective window is open, B.D. keeps the last used settings in memory, so I can tweak the settings on the guide track, then go back and apply all three steps (separate, conform, smooth) to the keeper tracks. Make sense? Thanks for watching and commenting!

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